[Leftovers] #169

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Chapters

• 0:01 Too Warm, Light Off
• 0:20 Awkward Setup And Banter
• 1:29 Workplace Origins And Roles
• 2:42 Scheduling, Cold Weather Gripes
• 3:27 New Show Reminder And Teasing
• 4:30 Microphone Burp And Donations
• 4:37 Birthday Materialism Question
• 5:29 Gifts As Tangible Care
• 6:08 Culture And Marketing’s Influence
• 6:27 Childhood Conditioning And Presence
• 7:03 Fear Of Being Forgotten
• 7:14 Rituals Over Objects
• 8:02 Takeaways And Loose Ends

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:00

Can we turn the light off?

SPEAKER_00: 0:02

I guess.

SPEAKER_01: 0:02

It's kind of warm.

SPEAKER_00: 0:03

Yep. It is. It's like always warm in here. Even when the fan is going, I notice that it's still warm in here.

SPEAKER_01: 0:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 0:11

I don't know why it's so warm.

SPEAKER_02: 0:12

No.

SPEAKER_00: 0:13

But it doesn't get better. No. I've tried different uh techniques, I guess.

SPEAKER_01: 0:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 0:20

Uh like with the fan, and I've tried leaving the door open and the door open with the fan, and it's still like really warm in here. So I don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_01: 0:31

No, I don't know what we're gonna.

SPEAKER_00: 0:34

And I'm retired. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01: 0:37

No. Is it my turn?

SPEAKER_00: 0:42

Are we Well, yeah, I guess you already opened yourself.

SPEAKER_01: 0:45

No, it's not open.

SPEAKER_00: 0:47

Alright, but um let's see.

SPEAKER_02: 0:50

No, I guess uh oh and I mean sorry, you don't have to pause, just yay.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14

So yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:17

Whatever that is.

SPEAKER_01: 1:18

Are we gonna swear?

SPEAKER_00: 1:19

We might. We'll save the swearing until later.

SPEAKER_01: 1:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:24

Um so yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26

Oh yeah, it's in the middle of the day, so it is.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29

We met while working at a place. We we sorry.

SPEAKER_01: 1:34

But you seem to like uh Eric or another guy who I uh hung out with uh very much. I was like uh always behind him pretty much.

SPEAKER_00: 1:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:46

And then I guess uh you saw me as like uh uh bodyguard, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 1:52

Probably.

SPEAKER_01: 1:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:53

Well it's funny because after you left, I uh suddenly got attached to him and started hanging out with him a lot.

SPEAKER_01: 2:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 2:00

Well So I was your replacement.

SPEAKER_01: 2:02

Okay, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 2:04

No?

SPEAKER_01: 2:05

What?

SPEAKER_00: 2:05

No? I don't Am I wrong?

SPEAKER_01: 2:07

I don't know. Okay uh I wasn't there, so I can't tell if you're right or wrong. But I did notice that you were talking to him before while I was still there.

SPEAKER_00: 2:18

Yes. But I ended up talking to him a lot more later.

SPEAKER_01: 2:22

Yeah. Co-hosty. Uh Adam Sandler and Rue Barrymore.

SPEAKER_00: 2:27

What?

SPEAKER_01: 2:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 2:28

Who? Alright, Matias.

SPEAKER_01: 2:30

Alright.

SPEAKER_00: 2:31

Hi, I haven't even put my headphones on yet.

SPEAKER_01: 2:33

No, but you know what?

SPEAKER_00: 2:34

What? Hold on. Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 2:38

So, uh I kept ask uh I've kept asking like every what? I have kept asking, like every week, but you're like, no. It's too cold.

SPEAKER_00: 2:49

It's cold, it's dark, and I don't like cold.

SPEAKER_01: 2:54

Or darkness.

SPEAKER_00: 2:55

Or dark.

SPEAKER_01: 2:56

It's too dark.

SPEAKER_00: 2:58

It is that's the alarm for when open eyes is wrong.

SPEAKER_01: 3:04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 3:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 3:08

Um yeah, that's a good question.

SPEAKER_00: 3:17

It's a really good question. What did we talk about last week? Uh maybe I can find out.

SPEAKER_01: 3:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 3:22

Person slapper was that one.

SPEAKER_01: 3:24

I thought you wanted to take a moment like uh uh, you know, the Have you seen that new show, Ginna Nagget? No, no.

SPEAKER_00: 3:33

Oh, you you need to.

SPEAKER_01: 3:34

Wait, uh did it start?

SPEAKER_00: 3:36

Yeah, on Thursday. Oh. You need to.

SPEAKER_01: 3:38

No one said anything.

SPEAKER_00: 3:39

Uh well, no one told me except for uh TV for play.

SPEAKER_01: 3:44

Yeah, no, uh for play. Yeah, if if someone said anything, I would have known.

SPEAKER_00: 3:51

Is this my fault? Are you blaming me? No, but uh who else is supposed to tell you?

SPEAKER_01: 3:56

The commercials.

SPEAKER_00: 3:58

Uh okay.

SPEAKER_01: 3:59

They've only been like uh soon. Soon yeah. It they never said like on Thursday.

SPEAKER_00: 4:05

Well, it was on Thursday, and now you know, and I told you. You know, you can't say nobody told you because now I told you, and you need to go watch it.

SPEAKER_01: 4:14

That was after Thursday.

SPEAKER_00: 4:16

Whatever you're doing right now, stop and go do that. Okay, thank you. The one that you had time to meet? Okay. What? He's not talking to me? Alright. Yeah. The microphone burped.

SPEAKER_01: 4:29

Microphone burp. Uh I just have uh one thing to say about the the thing, um, uh donation thing.

SPEAKER_00: 4:37

Right, okay. Ten birthday gifts that make people reconsider the friendship.

SPEAKER_01: 4:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 4:42

Hello? Tomorrow, Sunda, uh, are you not going to gymnastics? Why do you keep trying to skip gymnastics? Right. I pay for this. What when were you gonna go? Well, how about we get some details and then we'll figure it out? Okay, love you. Bye bye. Bye. Let me try this again.

SPEAKER_01: 5:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 5:08

Okay. How about no? Okay. My son is being dumb.

SPEAKER_01: 5:15

Uh yeah, no, that's not good.

SPEAKER_00: 5:19

Why are we materialistic when it comes to birthdays? This is my question now. Okay. Uh. Because birthdays sit at a strange crossword crossroads where time, identity, and cake collide. When something invisible, like another year of existence, needs celebrating, we reach for something visible. Objects become props in a very human theater.

SPEAKER_01: 5:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 5:48

Interesting. Okay, I'm sorry. Um, so presents are a tangible proof of care. Okay? Affection is abstract, a gift is concrete. A sweater says, I spent time, a book says, I noticed. It's emotional translation through cardboard and ribbon. Also, culture trained us. So modern birthday culture got turbocharged by consumer marketing in the 20th century. Retailers, greeting card companies, and big brands turned a quiet milestone into a shopping event. Even companies like Hallmark built empires on that idea uh that love requires a physical token. Uh there's childhood conditioning. From a young age, birthdays equal presence. Presence. Yeah. Not presence.

SPEAKER_01: 6:36

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 6:37

Well, that's not wrong. Birthdays do equal a presence because you are there.

SPEAKER_01: 6:41

Yeah, you should be there.

SPEAKER_00: 6:42

Uh you should be there for your own birthday. Uh the association bakes in early. Ha ha ha. Cake, balloons, gifts, the brain files that under celebration protocol. Um uh fear of being forgotten. A gift feels like a receipt for the relationship. Like, see, I showed up. Hey. Uh C, I showed up. Without something tangible, people worry the gesture won't register. But here's the twist. Birthdays are not inherited inherently materialistic. Many cultures celebrate with rituals, meals, blessings, or gatherings rather than objects. The material focus is more about habit and economy than human nature. At its core, a birthday is a ritual of recognition. The material layer is just one language for that recognition. Some people speak in objects, others in experiences, others in time.

SPEAKER_01: 7:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 7:43

Um so that explains that.

SPEAKER_01: 7:47

And that's Um What did I learn? Uh Did you learn anything? And uh what else? What what I I feel like we were talking about something earlier.

SPEAKER_00: 8:02

Right now I We've been talking this whole time.

SPEAKER_01: 8:04

Yeah, I I remember.

SPEAKER_00: 8:06

You remember us talking?

SPEAKER_01: 8:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 8:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 8:08

But I don't remember what I was thinking of.

SPEAKER_00: 8:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 8:11

Okay. Yeah. But uh I learned some things.

SPEAKER_00: 8:14

Good.