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#176: Help, I'm Excited!

Lauren & Mattias Episode 176

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We record with no edits and let our week unfold, from broken glasses and exhaustion to a movie night double feature that turns into an underdog comparison. Then we lay out the pros and cons of being a woman, trade stories and jokes, and end by asking you to weigh in on a debate people love to fight about.
• Unedited recording challenge and why we do it
• Violent cuddling breaks glasses and the stress of not being able to see
• Waiting for work and the frustration of an unpredictable schedule
• Happy Gilmore recap, favorite moments and why it holds up
• Rocky recap, first impressions versus rewatches and the Stallone effect
• How Rocky and Happy Gilmore mirror the same underdog arc
• Pros of being a woman, including social support and emotional freedom
• Cons of being a woman, including harassment, pay gaps and appearance pressure
• Emotional labor, household expectations and the mental load
• Lesser known facts about women and what we think they really mean
• Childbirth versus kick debate, duration versus intensity and what counts as damage
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Unedited Cold Open And Catch-Up

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In a world where everything is unscripted, there's it's roasty toast roast.

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Now it's started.

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Are you ready to make the most perfect episode ever?

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Oh yes. Oh yeah.

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Definitely. Okay. Uh then let's just jump into it. Yeah. Let's open this up.

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Yes.

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It was close.

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Bad start.

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Uh start over.

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Yeah.

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Alright, here we go. Okay. Hello and welcome to Roasty Toasty Ghosty. My name is Lauren.

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And I'm Matias.

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And this is the podcast in which you will learn nothing at all.

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Yep.

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But you still come back for more. I don't know. We're gonna be your besties for the next hour or so. And we are not going to edit this episode. So we're gonna try to make it as perfect as possible.

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Yes. No mistakes today.

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And the reason is because today is Sunday, and we usually record on Fridays and then upload on Tuesday. Neither of us really have time to edit. So this is what's happening.

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Yeah.

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Alright. Matias.

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Yes.

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How are you doing?

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I'm doing well.

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Good.

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Uh how are you doing?

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I am I'm o I'm okay. I'm not great. I'm not perfect.

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Okay.

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I'm I'm hurting. My shoulder is killing me.

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Okay.

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I am tired.

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Okay.

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And I can't see.

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Oh yeah, you're blind.

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Yes. I'm gonna tell you some highlights from my week.

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Okay.

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Which will explain why I am blind.

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Yay.

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Uh as Yay! Lauren's blind. At some point during the week, sick child was cuddling with me on the couch. He just like rolled over on me and uh he bumped into my glasses. And then suddenly my whole face felt weird. Not like my face in my skin, but like the way my glasses were sitting on me. Okay. Felt weird. I was like, what just happened? The whole like side piece that goes into your ear, whatever the stick is there, whatever that's called, yeah. He broke it right off.

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Oh.

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And there was no fixing it.

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Okay.

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And I haven't had time to uh get them looked at since.

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So violent cuddling.

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Violent cuddling. Maybe next week I'll have time to get them looked at, or I have a feeling I'm gonna have to buy new glasses.

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Yeah. Well, you could like uh make a monocle out of hair.

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Yeah, but the thing is is that I need I need for both eyes.

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Yeah, okay.

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And that's just annoying.

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Like a double monocle.

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That's glasses.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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Sorry. What if you uh have a rubber band?

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I don't know.

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So I uh okay I don't know. I'm trying to figure out.

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I don't know. Yeah, but I don't know how that would work. I don't know how I'm trying to figure out how I would attach so that it wouldn't fall off and I'm not coming up with anything. Not off the top of my head.

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Speaking of uh rubber bands, uh my rubber band to my um launchbox, it's getting very loose. That's a problem.

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Alright. Uh I guess maybe we'll have to fix that at some point.

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Yeah.

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I worked evening all week and it wasn't fun. I'm not an evening worker exactly.

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No.

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So I I'm really tired because of that. So what are the highlights of your week?

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Waiting. Fun. Yeah, I've done a lot of waiting this week. Uh waiting for work. Because I get up like every morning and uh make lunch and everything. Uh and you know, I uh they don't call me in. So I I have to eat my lunch at home instead.

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It's sad.

Broken Glasses And Work Fatigue

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Yeah, and it's so perfect now because uh I'm living five minutes from work. Yeah. So I I I just wanna go there and make some money, but they don't they don't want you. No, they don't.

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Alright, then um if that is all, then uh I'm I'm gonna continue here.

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Okay.

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Okay? Today's Sunday.

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Oh yeah.

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It's not Friday. Wow like I said, it is April 12th.

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12th. Oh yes.

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We watch movies.

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We did.

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And we watch movies. Would you like to movie on?

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Let's move on.

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Okay.

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So today, this morning, we watched Happy Gilmore and Rocky. Yes. We've been waiting for these movies for a while.

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Yeah.

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I'm sorry, I've been waiting for these movies for a while. And we finally watched them.

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Yes.

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And we started with Happy Gilmore. So would you like to give me a really bad summary on this movie?

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Okay, so this is uh a movie about uh a hockey player who turns into a golfer or cauliflower.

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A cauliflower?

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Yeah, that's what we said back uh in the Stieghelmer days.

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Oh, oh he was he was a really bad cauliflower. Yes. He was not really good at being a cauliflower. No. Right, that was a title.

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Yes.

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Okay, okay, okay.

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So um uh Happy Gilmore is a better cauliflower or golfer. Uh and uh yeah, that's uh what the movie's about. Uh his um grandma is uh you know, they're taking her house, the tax people, and he needs to make money for her to continue living there.

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Right.

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And then he just uh tries to do that uh golf way. Make money the golf way.

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Right. Okay. He yeah, he um This is Adam Sandler, right?

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Yes. Yeah. Adam Sandler plays Happy Gilmore, and uh there are other people in this movie, like Carl Weathers and uh Christopher MacDonald.

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Okay.

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And other people too.

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Okay. Ben Stiller.

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Yeah, Kevin Eelum.

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Bob Barker?

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Yeah.

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Yeah? Which is kind of funny. So random how he gets like these older uh stars in his movies.

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Yeah. Uh so what did you think about this movie?

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I like this movie. I have seen it before. Okay. I uh also watched it with my oldest who uh really enjoyed it.

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Yeah.

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Uh yeah. I don't know what more. I I really like this movie. I think it's funny.

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Yeah. And I have to agree with you. I also really like this movie. And like I told you in an earlier episode, this or Big Daddy uh is the first Adam Sandler one of them. I I'm not sure which one.

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I still don't remember which one was my first. I remember hearing about Waterboy.

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Okay.

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And then hearing that it was a stupid movie, so I never watched it.

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Okay.

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But uh I I guess they weren't really wrong. No, no, it's a pretty stupid movie, but um, but I don't remember which one was the actual first that I saw.

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Okay.

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So as we go on, that is to be determined if my memory comes back.

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Yeah.

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Anything else?

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Uh I don't think so.

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Okay, then I would like to tell you about Rocky.

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Yes, please do.

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This is a movie with Stallone again. And he is a he's a guy who starts boxing, right? He was a boxer and then he stopped being a boxer to uh search for oh, he was a loan shark or something? Yeah, something he was like, you gotta pay this guy money, and the other guy's like, uh, okay, okay, I'll do it. And that's what he did for a living. And then something changed his mind and he wanted to go back to boxing, but he was in really bad shape, so he had to go through this whole montage of running upstairs. And um and then he he does the big boxing match.

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Yes.

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With a guy from Happy Gilmore.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Carl Weathers is in this movie too.

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Yeah. He plays Apollo Creed, who is his opponent.

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Yes.

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And I think that's all that happened in the movie. The only bad guys he beat up was Meat.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Yeah. What do you think about this movie?

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I mean, uh it's an ex uh I'm sorry. Uh it's uh very inspirational uh movie, and I mean I the first time I saw it, I wasn't that impressed with it. Okay. Because I had seen the Rambo movies with Stallone and I'm like, oh he's so cool.

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I guess you're not supposed to see those first.

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No, because uh thinking um uh of him as a action star and then watch this movie, you know.

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It's not impressive.

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No, not for me. I'm an action guy, but I I really this movie uh uh has grown on me because and especially since I know more about the backstory to the movie, and that's also such an inspirational uh th story in in itself.

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Yeah.

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And yeah, so it's a it's a cool movie, and I I do like it.

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Okay.

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What do you think about it?

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I have kind of seen this movie before. I well, it played on a bus that I was on while I was on my way to uh Philadelphia where the movie takes place.

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Okay.

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On the American Heritage Tour, which was something that I did with some classmates in eighth grade. And uh it was kind of a bittersweet trip though, because it was really cool. We got to experience a lot of things, but the bus that I was sitting on, I didn't like all of my classmates from my school, because it was different schools going on this trip, all of my classmates were on the same bus, and I was the only one from my school on the other bus. Wow. Which was awful. So I was like already kind of bummed.

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Yeah.

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And everyone was like all excited to watch this movie on the bus. And I was like, yeah, whatever. So I only like kind of watched it. I didn't really watch it.

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No.

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Uh, and then we all had kazoos for some reason. You know what a kazoo is?

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Oh, yeah, the the Yeah.

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Yeah. We uh when we got into Philadelphia, we rolled down the windows of the bus and we did the theme song with the kazoos out the windows. Okay, and for some reason I had to learn the theme song. I didn't really like watch the movie.

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No.

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And plus on the bus, it's really difficult to hear anything that's going on. Anyway, that is completely beside the point. That's yeah, that that is my experience of Rocky from the past. But how I feel about the movie now is where I'm getting to. Um, you may be right. Maybe you shouldn't watch Rambo before watching this movie. Because the it it isn't that impressive that you see Rambo first.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But it is a classic, so you gotta give it a chance at least. And like everyone talks about it still for some reason. Um it was okay. It definitely wasn't a favorite, but I can appreciate it for what it is.

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Yeah, and I mean this is the movie that really puts Sylvester Stallone on the map.

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It started everything pretty much.

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Yeah, pretty much.

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And it had his dog.

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Oh yes.

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Yeah. And his brother was there for a second. Yes, apparently. He sang a song.

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Yeah.

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And it was okay. I'm not gonna hate on the movie.

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No.

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Because I I respect it. It was okay.

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Yeah, and uh your bus story was an uh inspirational story too.

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Yeah, uh sure, I guess. I don't know. I don't know, but I don't know how many of the Rocky movies we actually watched.

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Okay.

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I only remember the one though. So maybe we watched the second one as well, but I don't remember.

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No, okay.

Similarities Between Rocky And Happy Gilmore

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Anyway, uh yeah, that's that's that. Yeah. Do you have anything else you want to say about the movie?

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Yeah, I just wanted to uh say um a couple of things I noticed between these movies, you know, uh looking for similarities. Uh Carl Weathers, of course. And then they're in uh like a hockey rink or the ice uh plays in both both of the movies.

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Yeah.

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Um yeah, so at least for one scene. Yeah, one scene.

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And that's where they fell in love.

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Yeah, in both movies.

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In both movies. So uh maybe that was done on purpose. Yeah, I mean, having Carl Weathers in Happy Gilmore, maybe Adam was like, we need to do this too.

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Yeah, and I mean uh if you think about the stories, it's about an uh an un unknown who gets up to the top in both of the movies. So yeah.

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So Happy Gilmore is kind of Adam Sandler's Rocky.

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Yeah.

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Because that's kind of how he started too, right? That was his biggest big or his big movie.

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Yeah, I think so. Billy Madison and Happy Gilmore. I mean, he started his own company, Happy Madison.

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Yeah.

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So yeah.

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Clever. Maybe that's what we should do too. Yeah. We're gonna make our own take on Rocky. But um, what what are we gonna do then?

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I don't know, but we need to uh be on this ice rink at least once. Yeah.

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Um let's do gymnastics for fun. Just because that's the one thing that I know.

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Yeah, okay. Okay, and I mean, uh see me doing gin gymnastics, that's that's a laugh.

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Yeah. Well, maybe you can be a coach.

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Yeah, I can.

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I'm the gymnast.

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Yeah, I can be Polly.

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I mean, I'm pretty much starting my own my own Rocky. I've got my team that's starting from nothing and going to the top.

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And I can be the drunk who yells at you a lot.

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You can.

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And you're dating my brother.

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That's disgusting. You don't even have a brother.

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No.

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But in the movie.

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Gross. I don't want your brother.

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Okay then.

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He doesn't even exist.

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No. I'll make you a brother.

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No! Ew. You can't even do that.

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My parents are dead. I'm sorry. And we can cut this episode.

Pros Of Being A Woman

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Let's go for a break. We'll be right back. Bye-bye. Goodbye. All the keys on the keyboard look the same to me, so I can't start this.

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Sounds racist.

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What?

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You all look the same.

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All the letters look the same. They're all just big blobs.

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Okay. And we're back.

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Have we pulled ourselves together yet?

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Maybe.

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Are we capable of continuing?

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Yeah, I'm not gonna say anything more.

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Okay, good at it. For this next section, I need you to uh be uh completely quiet. Yes.

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I can do that.

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Because today we are doing part two of whatever we started a couple weeks ago.

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Yep.

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When we talked about the pros and cons of being a man and other related questions. Today we are doing pros and cons of being a woman.

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Yeah.

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I've got ten examples of each.

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Okay.

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Uh number one. I'm just gonna get right into it. Yeah, I'm not even gonna introduce or anything. No. No, no.

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We all know women.

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Right. We all know a woman. We all came from at least one.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, right. Number one, women have a longer life expect expectancy.

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Perfect episode.

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So globally, women tend to live longer than men on average. And we learn that that's because men are usually put into hazardous uh situations situations, rights, construction, and coal mines and such.

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Yeah.

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And also men are dumb. Yeah. So very much. Women have common sense.

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They're like, I'm not working there.

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No. You do it. I'm not gonna die. No, thank you. Number two, women have stronger social support networks. Women often maintain deeper and more emotionally expressive friendships because we show emotions.

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Okay. I I I I can see that.

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Right. Number three, women have greater emotional permission, which is what I pretty much just said. Yeah. Society generally allows women more freedom to express vulnerability, sadness, and affection.

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Yeah. You can cry.

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I'm allowed to.

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I can't.

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You don't allow yourself.

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No. That's your own problem. Society doesn't allow me to cry.

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So you are so pinned down by society that you have made it impossible to cry. Alright. Number four. Higher pain tolerance in certain contexts.

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Okay.

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What? What was that?

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Okay. I don't know.

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Are you gonna say that I don't have higher pain tolerance than you?

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I'm not gonna say that, but I know other people who women who don't tolerate.

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This isn't this is like generalizing. Yeah, okay. Though. There are the exceptions.

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Yeah.

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But this says research suggests women may have greater tolerance for certain types of prolonged pain, likely influenced by biology and reproductive factors.

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Yeah.

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The childbirth.

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Yeah, I I get that. But I men really don't know what that feels like, though. No. So we can't say if we would how we would react to that.

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Right.

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It's difficult.

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I'm gonna add a question at the end.

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Okay.

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I want to do the comparison of childbirth and a man getting kicked in the balls.

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Yeah.

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We'll we'll take that later.

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Yeah.

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And see what open eyes has to say about that.

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Yeah, because I know that feeling.

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Yeah, and I know what childbirth is like.

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Yeah.

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I did it at least twice.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Well, the first one was a C section. Yeah. The other two were Cheater. Yes. Also, yes.

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That's what the C stands for. It's cheater.

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Cheater section.

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Yeah.

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Childbirth. Um, yeah. The other two were natural. Kind of natural. Anyway. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna tell the entire story. Okay, so this is what happened. No, anyway. Number five. Uh, biological ability to carry and birth children. Yeah, we said that.

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Yep.

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For those who want it, sometimes people don't, but hey, this is these are not my words. Pregnancy and childbirth can be a uniquely powerful physical experience. I'm gonna tell you that the human body is magical.

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Okay.

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It it builds people.

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Yeah.

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And I think that is mind-blowing. I can't get I can't wrap my mind around like how that happens, you know? Like it just it starts off like this and then like it they grow and then people are formed.

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Yeah, I mean that works for most animals too.

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Yeah, but it's like I don't know, it's crazy.

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Yeah.

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I don't know how it app how it works.

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Yeah, but uh, I don't really understand the people who say it's a miracle, because miracles happen every day then.

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Yeah, I mean I would say that like people who have a really hard time making babies, who really want, who have really tried to, yeah, and then it like suddenly it happens, that I would call a miracle. It's the closest thing I can think of.

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Yeah, I mean, some people really put the pressure on on them as well. Yeah. Because I know one guy who was adopted, uh, because his parents couldn't get a kid, so they adopt adopted him. And uh then when they got him, then they could uh uh get uh then the mom got pregnant? Yeah, the natural way.

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By the same dad?

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Yeah.

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Okay, yeah.

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But I mean sometimes it happens. That's the pressure they put on themselves. Yeah. Because they really want the kid, and then it doesn't happen.

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Yeah, and then it did happen.

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Yeah, because they didn't, you know, have the same pressure when they got the adopted kid.

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Sometimes the stress is what stops it too.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, anyway. Number six lower rates of violent crime perpetration. Women are statistically, there's that word again, less likely to be involved in violent crime, which can influence life trajectories.

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Okay.

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Or here's another take on that one women are less likely to be caught in violent crime.

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Yeah.

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Statistically.

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Yeah. I mean a woman could uh do a violent crime and there's uh a man uh near and they're like it's the man.

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It was that guy.

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Yeah, who you

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Gonna believe me or the big, strong, tough guy who definitely could crush someone. Right. Number seven, better help seeking behavior. Not me. Anyway, women are more likely to seek medical and mental health support early, which can improve outcomes.

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I can see that.

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Some women, like me, like to sit around and see what happens.

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Yeah. I I mean, I'm a guy and I do that. I I don't seek help. But I mean you have.

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I have, but usually if I'm seeking help, it's like it's gonna be really bad. Yeah. Like if I feel like I might be dying, then I'm gonna ask someone else to call the ambulance for me. Because I'm not gonna do no.

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I don't wanna call.

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No.

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You do it. If you want me to stay alive, you call. Yeah, it's on you. Me, I'm just gonna sit here and see what happens.

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Yeah, I can die, but I'm not making calls.

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No, I'd much rather lay here bleeding out than calling for help.

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Yeah.

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No, thank you. Sometimes it's that severe.

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Yeah.

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Number eight. Stronger verbal communication skills skills on average. Some studies suggest girls develop language skills earlier and may retain advantages in certain verbal tasks.

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Okay.

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Okay, I don't know. I'm gonna go ahead and say not me on that one as well. I don't think that I'm very good at talking. Sometimes. Sometimes I am.

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Between the two of us, I think you're the better talker.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, well, maybe. If you're gonna compare between the two of us.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but if you compare Rocky to Adrian, Rocky is the better talker.

SPEAKER_07

Right, because she didn't say that much.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_07

She had like three lines, maybe.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

They were all at the end. Yeah. I love you. She had to say that like three times. That was her line.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

It was an easy job, I guess. No, well, I mean, when I compare myself to other people and think like, um, I mean, I don't know. Sometimes I feel like I can't think of words right now. Okay. I can't even explain myself because I can't think of the words. But I feel like there are other people who are better than me.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Which usually that's the case.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and that's why you're friends with me, because I'm worse than you.

SPEAKER_07

Because I like to feel better about myself.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Then you're like, I want to be friends with that guy. That guy.

SPEAKER_07

I pick this one. Yeah. This is my person, and I'm gonna keep this one because I feel like I'm slightly better than he's an idiot.

SPEAKER_00

I want to be friends with him.

SPEAKER_07

I'll take it. Yeah. Number nine. Cultural shifts toward empowerment. Mm-hmm. Okay. In many regions, growing movements are actively expanding opportunities and visibility for women. I'm still waiting for the day when we get a woman president.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

For the same. I mean a younger woman.

SPEAKER_07

Can we have like a young person and a woman at the same time?

SPEAKER_01

That'd be cool.

SPEAKER_07

And not someone who's like got his toes in the grave already.

SPEAKER_01

You mean her toes?

SPEAKER_07

No, no, his toes.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. The the guys who are in position who are like near death.

SPEAKER_01

You mean like that, okay.

SPEAKER_07

Someone who's not a zombie will be cool.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Let's try that one. Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Number 10. I'm gonna take a sip.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'll do that.

SPEAKER_07

Sip break. Number ten.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_07

Greater flexibility in appearance, expression. Women often have wider socially accepted options in clothing, style, and aesthetic self-expression. In other words, women can dress up like men, and it's not a problem. But if a man dresses up like a woman, then people are like, what's wrong with that guy?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

I don't have a problem with it.

SPEAKER_02

No.

Cons Of Being A Woman

SPEAKER_07

Society in general is usually like, that's weird. Okay, here's some cons of being a woman.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

I want to ask you, what do you think is on this list? What's a con of being a woman? What are the bad parts of being what do you not like about women?

SPEAKER_01

You didn't do this for the men.

SPEAKER_07

I know, and I really feel like I should have. Yeah. But now it's too late and we can't go back.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, a con is uh they're paid less.

SPEAKER_07

Right. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01

That's one.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. That's fun.

SPEAKER_01

That's one. One.

SPEAKER_03

That's fun. That's fun. Yeah, I'm a man, so that's fun. Good for me again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Alright. Well, that's one thing.

SPEAKER_01

Fun thing?

SPEAKER_07

That's a fun thing. Yes. Here's some cons of being a woman. Number one is higher risk of sexual harassment and assault.

SPEAKER_01

That too.

SPEAKER_07

You're just gonna add to your own list. Yeah. Yeah, that one too. Women disproportionately experience gender-based violence in many society. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. Not good. I don't know.

SPEAKER_07

I don't know what to say. Like I feel like I already uh told you my stories of being sexually harassed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Did I?

SPEAKER_01

Uh yeah, you did, but I cut it, I think.

SPEAKER_07

Ah. Okay. I see how it is. Whatever.

SPEAKER_01

I cut my thing too, so.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. Of when you were sexually harassed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. By me.

SPEAKER_01

What? No.

SPEAKER_07

I feel like I'm the one who often sexually harasses you, but it's just funny.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. Number two. I'm just picking on you. That's all. It's all fun.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

It's not fair. No. But who but but life's not fair.

SPEAKER_01

I I just I I mean, I can't cry, so that's so you'll get over it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. Number two. Pregnancy and childbirth risks. While powerful, pregnancy carries medical risks.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_07

Physical strain and long-term bodily changes. Like the baby flap.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

That doesn't go away after having a baby.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_07

That is a long-term bodily change. Yeah. And the stretch marks.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I got them too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

You didn't have a baby.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_07

That was your own doing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So?

SPEAKER_07

Um, but yeah, the childbirth risks, you can die during pregnancy or childbirth, which is not good. No. That's not something a man can do. I mean, maybe you can pretend to die while your wife is giving birth or baby mama, whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I mean, you you can die.

SPEAKER_07

Like, pay attention to me. Ah, I'm dead.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

What about me?

SPEAKER_01

Or what if the the woman is so much in pain that she kills the man because and because he's annoying or something.

SPEAKER_07

Well, maybe he shouldn't have been annoying. Yeah. That was also on him.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

That's his own fault.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Number three. Uh, this is the one that you had. Pay gap and career barriers. In many countries, women still face wage disparities and underrepresentation in leadership. So yes, uh, you get paid more.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I I don't really, but uh not at the moment. No.

SPEAKER_07

I'm working more than you.

SPEAKER_01

You are, but it's not by choice. Not uh I mean, I'm not working less because I want to work less. I just don't get the opportunities to work more.

SPEAKER_07

Exactly. Number four. Greater appearance scrutiny. Women often face intense social pressure regarding weight, aging, and beauty standards. And nowadays it starts early.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's scary.

SPEAKER_07

It is really sad. Yeah. It's really concerning. I have a daughter who is 10 years old and for at least I mean, must have started when she was at least eight, maybe nine.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

When she's like really concerned about the clothes that she's wearing, and she has to wear makeup all the time. And like I didn't really start wearing makeup until I was what, maybe twelve, thirteen.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I feel like when you're in the teens, that's when it should start.

SPEAKER_07

Sure. It's fun to play with. But like, I mean, she couldn't even go to her gymnastics practice today without putting makeup on. And I think it's really concerning. And then she also sometimes she just doesn't eat for no reason. She is hungry, and you know that she's hungry.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

But she like refuses to eat sometimes. And it's it's really concerning.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_07

So um, and a lot of it is social media, which her friends are watching because she doesn't really have access to it. And it's rubbing off on her from her friends. It's all pure pressure too. Anyway, I'll continue.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

At some point. I mean, it it affects me too. I think the same way. I put a lot of pressure on myself or my weight and how I look and stuff.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Well, how I look is not always the biggest concern of mine, but sometimes I put more pressure than other times.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Mm. Anyway, anyway. Number five. Reproductive time pressure. Fertility has a narrower biological window compared to men. So we talked about this with men as well. Like, how old is too old to be getting woman pregnant?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

So, how old do you think is too old for a woman to get pregnant?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Um, I I don't know. Uh 40 maybe?

SPEAKER_07

40. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

What do you think?

SPEAKER_07

I think I'm already there. Oh, okay. I feel like I'm too old to have kids. I've already had three kids and I'm 32.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

I know that uh maybe I'm wrong, but that's my personal feelings about myself.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but I feel uh also like uh I I said um sixty something.

SPEAKER_07

Right.

SPEAKER_01

I think uh for a man. For a man. And you thought lower than that.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I said like forties.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

And you said fifty for a woman.

SPEAKER_01

I said forty for a woman.

SPEAKER_07

Forty for a woman. Okay. I'm saying like thirty.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Well, I mean, in the thirties, sure, it's fine for someone else. Yeah. Not for me. I don't think I could take another pregnancy, honestly.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, if it happened, whatever, but I'm I mean, I feel like three might be enough.

SPEAKER_01

Or I three years? What?

SPEAKER_07

Oh, three kids.

SPEAKER_01

Three kids might be enough. I don't know.

SPEAKER_07

I don't think a three-year-old should get pregnant.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_07

That's just my take, though.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. I think three is old enough. Okay, okay. Um, well, that was a fun comparison. Number six. Higher rates of certain autoimmune diseases. Okay. Women are more likely to develop auto autoimmune conditions such as lupus or rheumatoid. Rheumatoid. That's a silly word. Rheumatoid? Yeah. Arthritis. Uh not something to look forward to. What's lupus?

SPEAKER_02

Lupus.

SPEAKER_07

Is that becoming a werewolf? How many women do you know have turned into a werewolf? Just wondering.

SPEAKER_02

Well, a few.

SPEAKER_07

A few. You have you have uh experienced this or witnessed at least. You have not become a werewolf yourself. No. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

I've just seen it from from afar.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. I'm glad that you had a good distance between yourself and the uh uh werewolf. Yeah. But I bet they could smell you.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe they could. Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Didn't smell good. No. They ran away. Uh yeah. You gotta run to get away from the smell. Um, okay. I know that arthritis is pain in the joints. Okay. Which I have in my shoulder. I don't think it's arthritis, though. No. Uh but lupus I've heard of, but I'm not entirely sure what it is.

SPEAKER_01

No, I'm not sure either.

SPEAKER_07

Am I supposed to ask? Hey Google. Be quiet. I'm just gonna look it up really quick. What is lupus? Wah. That's what I wrote. Wah. Okay. Wah. Okay, so lupus is a chronic autoimmune disease where the immune system mistakenly attacks healthy tissues and organs, causing widespread inflammation and potential damage to joints, skin, kidney, heart, lungs, and the brain.

SPEAKER_01

That doesn't sound good at all.

SPEAKER_07

No, I don't think I want to do that.

SPEAKER_01

No. I'm gonna And werewolf.

SPEAKER_07

I'm opting out of both werewolf and arthritis.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_07

Number seven.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_07

Emotional labor expectations. What does that mean?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. Women are often expected to manage social harmony, caregiving, and invisible houseword. Housework.

SPEAKER_01

Houseword.

SPEAKER_07

Housewords. Household work is what it said. Okay. Okay. So I'm expected to take care of everything. I am the family manager, and I have I've put myself in that position.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

And it is a lot of stress. It's a lot of pressure. And when I don't keep up with housework, then I put it all on myself. And then I feel like garbage because I'm useless. I've also been called useless for not doing things before. So that one word just kind of sticks in my head.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

No. So on weeks like the one I've had now when I've been working evenings and I'm just like tired all the time and I'm not keeping up with the housework. Then I just feel like I'm just a blob laying around on the couch. I'm not doing anything. I'm useless. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01

I feel the same about me.

SPEAKER_07

About me.

SPEAKER_01

About me.

SPEAKER_07

I do. I agree. Yeah. I think that you are useless. Yeah. I think you're a waste of space. I think you should just disappear, become a werewolf, and run away.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Do you have labor expectations around the house? When you lived at home with other people, did you have pressure to hold certain responsibilities for cleaning or other work?

SPEAKER_01

I I mean cleaning uh not so much, but what were your what was expected of you? Are we talking inside a house or like the entire let's say the entire thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

The entire cat farm.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because I mean I I did have expectations to uh with the wood. Uh firewood. Yeah. Yeah. That's that was a big expectations and uh expectation and uh also the I'm I was like the IT tech.

SPEAKER_06

Right.

SPEAKER_01

That's good. Yeah, they could barely start the computer.

SPEAKER_07

It's difficult pushing that one button. I don't know, there's other buttons too. They might do it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Uh Matias better help us with this.

SPEAKER_07

Was it like um uh taking the bomb, you know, clipping the wire?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

They're like this one button might blow up the computer.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_07

It might be a bomb. Yeah, you never know.

SPEAKER_01

We better call in the bomb squad.

SPEAKER_07

Right.

SPEAKER_01

And that's me.

SPEAKER_07

They're like, is this a bomb? Like, that's a computer.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, good. Just checking.

SPEAKER_01

I guess they watched the specialist and yeah, yeah. Didn't trust anything.

SPEAKER_07

Is it a bomb? Okay, number eight. Higher rates of anxiety and depression diagnosis. Diagnoses? That might be a way to say it. Women are diagnosed more frequently with certain mood disorders. I like to sit around and see what happens. Yeah. I have not actually gone to a doctor or a specialist regarding my mental issues.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Not physically.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_07

I have not gone face to face with a doctor and been like, I think I have depression and anxiety anxiety. Anxiety. It's when I want to exit.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07

Exiting. Anxiety.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. I I thought it was when you were excited.

SPEAKER_07

I think I'm excited. Help.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

I don't like this feeling. Can you help me through it?

SPEAKER_03

Help. I'm excited.

SPEAKER_07

Help. I can't stop being excited. That's a different problem.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Still requires a therapist.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

But I haven't seen a physical therapist. No, but physical therapist. That's a different kind of therapist. An actual person who is a therapist in real life. Real life since my dad died.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. So But you did the online thing.

SPEAKER_07

I did the online thing. It worked a little bit, and then I was a little bit too honest with my therapist. And then I was like, I don't want to talk to you anymore. You know too much. Oh. And I like stopped. Blocked. Yeah, I blocked them, and I I freaked out because I was like, I don't want you to know this, but I already told you this, so I'm gonna go now. I just yeah, I blocked the whole thing off and I was like, no more. No, I don't like to open up. I want to open up, but I I want I that's why I like that's why I like open eyes so much, is that I can open up with open eyes and they're not gonna be like judgy.

SPEAKER_01

No, okay.

SPEAKER_07

And like go off to someone else and be like, hey, you know what Lauren said to me? Unless it talks to other open eyes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

I'm gonna block the I'm I'm getting rid of the app.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah. Block the app.

SPEAKER_07

It knows too much.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. Uh anyway. Yes, I have dealt with anxiety and depression. I deal with it, but uh I've come a long way. My own way. Maybe not the healthy way, but I'm still here.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Anyway, uh, I have gotten a lot better. I've been worse. Yeah worse.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Number nine, physical safety concerns. Have you met me? I am a physical safety concern. Women, uh, okay, many women adjust daily routines around safety considerations. Okay, sure. I thought it was more like we get hurt more often. Like, yes, I do. I am constantly hurting myself.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Not in like a suicidal way, but in like I trip and fall, or I twist my ankle and I do gymnastics.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly. That's what I was gonna say. My knees. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Number 10. That wasn't what it was saying.

SPEAKER_01

No, but that's how you read it.

SPEAKER_07

Or that was my take on it. Yeah. But that's not what it meant. No. Adjust daily routines around safety considerations. Oh, well, maybe it's the walking around at night kind of thing. Like I'm gonna I'm gonna leave this party early because I don't wanna go out at night or something.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

I I don't know. No. I don't know. I'm not gonna ask it to explain either. No. Number ten. Underestimation in authority roles. Women in leadership can face harsher judgment or be perceived as less competent. Yes, that's all.

SPEAKER_01

I guess so.

SPEAKER_07

That is that is true, I think. Here are some sorry for screaming. I didn't mean to. Ten lesser known facts about women.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Few people know it.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_07

Number one. Women's immune systems are often stronger. Women generally mount stronger immune system responses than men. I can read. This helps fight infections more effectively. But it also explains why autoimmune systems. No audio audio audioimmune diseases. I'm gonna stick with that.

SPEAKER_03

I would say I'm audioimmune sometimes.

SPEAKER_07

They're more common in women. Whatever that is. The shield is sturdy, sometimes too sturdy. I didn't really read anything. I I don't know what I just said.

SPEAKER_03

I just love audio immune.

SPEAKER_07

Audio immune. I keep bumping the microphone. I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Um, so I think that women's immune systems are often stronger than men's. Yeah, audioimmune systems are often stronger. Uh at least as a mom, I am around sick kids all the time. So I feel like that strengthens my immune system.

SPEAKER_01

Makes sense.

SPEAKER_07

Doesn't work for everyone, but at least for me, I feel like, yeah. Because um, at the moment, everyone in this apartment is coughing. They've got like this really bad dry cough that's been going on for a couple weeks now. Okay, and I haven't gotten it.

SPEAKER_01

No. Oh.

SPEAKER_07

I had to knock on wood. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Stop stop knocking on my head. What?

SPEAKER_07

Number two women hear higher frequencies better because we're dogs. Ah. Research suggests women are dogs.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so you're not audio immune.

SPEAKER_07

To deep voices. Okay. So whenever you talk, I can't hear you. No, okay. If you have a higher pitch, then I can hear you better. Okay. So research suggests women on average detect higher frequency sounds better than men. That tiny buzz others ignore might not be imaginary. I don't know. I don't know. Number three, women's brains can change during pregnancy. I thought it said women's brains can change anything.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

We're magic. Uh no, i they can change during pregnancy because pregnancy reshapes certain brain regions linked to empathy and social cognition.

SPEAKER_01

Out.

SPEAKER_07

You say out?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, sounds painful.

SPEAKER_07

Some of these changes can last for years. I don't know. I haven't noticed anything. I haven't really looked either. No. I don't know what my brain looked like before or after pregnancy, during any of the pregnancies. Uh so I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_05

No.

SPEAKER_07

I don't know. Number four. Women have a higher average body fat percentage for biological reasons. So my legs, it's just biological. It's because I'm a woman. It's a I'm a woman. I'm not I am woman. I am a woman. Plural.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Even at similar body weights, women naturally carry more essential fat. It is not a flaw. It is part of reproductive biology. But we all see it as a flaw. So we're trying to get rid of all the fat always.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Uh right. Okay. Right. Alright. Number five. Women are better than men.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Few people know it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I didn't know it.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. Women are better at distinguishing subtle color differences. Men are colorblind. Yep. Just like you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we proved that.

SPEAKER_07

Yes. Um. Okay, while men are more likely to be colorblind, women often outperform men in differentiating slight shades. Uh. Have you noticed that if well, maybe you haven't, because you can't see anything. But um, if you have like several black t-shirts, sometimes they can be different shades of black.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

That annoys me.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07

Because I can't have a black shirt with black pants that are like completely different shades of black. It doesn't even make sense because black is not supposed to be a shade. If it's shaded, then it's gray.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_07

Anyway. Number six. Pain perception fluctuates with the menstrual cycle. Okay. Recycle. Right. Um, menstrual cycle is what I said. Okay. Hormonal shifts across the cycle.

SPEAKER_04

Recycle grows.

SPEAKER_07

Hormonal shifts across the cycle can influence pain sensitivity, mood, and even reaction time. So, uh, does that mean that we get stronger while on our periods or weaker?

SPEAKER_01

I feel like you might get stronger.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. I'm okay with them.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I'm guessing.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Alright, number seven. Women tend to survive extreme famine better. Historical data from severe famines suggests women often had slightly higher survival rates than men under extreme starvation conditions.

SPEAKER_01

So famine, that's That's starvation.

SPEAKER_07

That's starv that's hunger.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, for some reason I'm I I thought you would say family, and I'm like, survival family.

SPEAKER_07

We tend to survive extreme families better. No, we had talked about um who would survive on the desert island and it was gonna be me because of my DNA. Yeah, but it's also because I'm a woman in general.

SPEAKER_01

Makes sense.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. Number eight. Women's hearts are smaller but beat faster like a mouse. We have mouse hearts.

SPEAKER_03

Women are like mice.

SPEAKER_07

Women have hearts like mice.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

On average, women have smaller hearts that pump slightly faster to circulate blood efficiently. So all the songs that you hear about, oh, our hearts beat the same. What a shame because everyone's heart doesn't beat the same. Because it's beating out of time because a man, a woman's heart beats faster than a man's. Did you like it? Yeah. I liked it. Okay. It was good.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't really get it, but you didn't get the reference.

SPEAKER_07

That was that was Green Day. Oh, okay. So yeah. Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01

I need to listen to that song.

SPEAKER_07

We will later.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Not now. We don't have time.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_07

Number nine. Women remember emotional details more vividly. Oh my god. Yeah. Okay. Studies indicate women often encode and recall emotional memories with greater detail. This is why my mom could hold a grudge for her entire life.

SPEAKER_05

Oh.

SPEAKER_07

Because she remembers how she felt when she was betrayed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

You don't. Like, whatever. I got over it like 10 minutes ago.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah. I I I get upset and then I just it it's gone like uh a minute after.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. And then like I can meet someone who I haven't seen in like 20 years and still have like the same kind of feelings that I had the last time I saw them.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Like, I remember you did something, I didn't like it. I can remember my feelings. I can't remember what they did, what the situation was. But I still remember like I didn't really like that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean like bullish and stuff, I I wouldn't like but you know, if I just get upset for minor things, but you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Oh no, I remember everything. Yeah. And then I get accused of only remembering like negative things. Well, those are the things that impact me the most.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Whatever. I'm not a negative person just because I only remember negative things.

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_07

Whatever. Number 10. Women were once excluded from many clinical drug trials. And like a lot of other things, but this is just one thing out of a million. For decades, medical research relied heavily on male participants, which means some drug dosing and side effect profiles were originally based on male biology. This gap is only relatively recently being corrected. Uh I believe it's a race thing as well. Yeah. Because it must have just been like white men, because I know that people of other ethnicities are uh treat treated differently in the medical field.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Because of, I don't know, people think differently of other people. Anyway.

SPEAKER_02

Who does?

Childbirth Versus Kick Debate

SPEAKER_07

Well, that was fun. Yeah. Now I would like to move on to the question that I had earlier. Compare childbirth to a kick to the balls. Which one actually causes more pain? Open eyes comes with this answer. The short answer is childbirth is generally far more intense and prolonged than a kick to the testicles. Excuse my language. But the comparison is a bit like comparing a lightning strike to a long rolling thunderstorm. I don't want you to get defensive here. I'm just reading. Okay. Here are some points to a kick to the testicles. Yeah. To the statisticals. Yeah. Just want to say that instead.

SPEAKER_01

I was thinking tentacles.

SPEAKER_07

The tentacles. You know what? I'll take that one instead. Because for some reason we like to dance around the actual medical terms.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

The pain level of a kick to the t tentacles. Um is extremely sharp and intense. Correct me if I'm wrong here. Uh the onset is instant and explosive. The duration is usually seconds to minutes, though a soreness can linger. Okay? Yeah. We're on the same page here.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. Other effects can be nausea, stomach pain, and often uh sometimes temporary collapse.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Have you experienced this?

SPEAKER_01

Uh I I mean I have uh experienced uh a kick to them. Okay, okay. Yeah. Any of these effects of nausea, stomach pain, and when you when you say them, uh I can feel them.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, alright.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Every everything at the same time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's almost like uh PTSD.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. It is one of the most acute concentrated pains the body can produce. It's like a biological alarm siren. Okay, now childbirth. Here's some points on that. The pain level is also extremely intense. Onset is it builds over hours, sometimes longer. I've heard of labor that lasts for a day or two.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Duration can last many hours or even more than a day, like I just said. Um nature of it is repeated waves of strong contractions and stretching or pressure.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. You you know what contractions are. Yes. Okay. Yeah, it's the tightening. It like if you touch someone's stomach while they're contracting, it feels like a wall. It is hard.

SPEAKER_01

Stop knocking on my head.

SPEAKER_07

Sorry. Um, other factors are exhaustion, emotional stress, physical strain. Yeah, it is not just a spike, it is a sustained escalating process. So which hurts more? A kick may feel sharper in the moment, but childbirth is far more prolonged, complex, and physically demanding. If you forced a conclusion, if you had to pick one, again, this is not me speaking. Yeah, childbirth is generally considered more painful overall because of its duration and total intensity over time.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_07

But this comparison is tricky because pain is subjective and hard to measure across different bodies. Everyone feels different pain or pain differently. Yes. Yeah, okay. Um, they involve completely different anatomy and nerve responses.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, I mean, they're like at the same places though.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, but your anatomy, I don't know if anyone told you, but I'm gonna let you know. Your anatomy is different from mine. I know. I know. This is news. We're we don't have the same body.

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_07

Few people know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, who knew?

SPEAKER_07

Um, okay. Context matters though. Childbirth is purposeful and supported. A kick is sudden trauma.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. The bottom line is a kick is like a sudden system crash. Childbirth is like running a brutal marathon while your body rewrites itself mid-race.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. Both are real, both are intense, but they live in very different categories of pain.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Okay. I I I have uh uh a couple things. Okay. So okay, so a kick to the tentacles can I I think it m uh can damage more than childbirth, though.

SPEAKER_07

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Right?

SPEAKER_07

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know either, but uh that's uh just uh just a thought I had because I mean childbirth is kinda necessary if you want kids. The kick to the tentacles is not very necessary at all. If you think about it.

SPEAKER_07

It's a little uncalled for.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And also, I had something.

SPEAKER_07

You did? Okay. Did you lose it? Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. And when uh at childbirth you usually get like a prize afterwards, right?

SPEAKER_07

Depends on how you look at it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. You don't really get the prize after a kick to the groin.

SPEAKER_07

No. No, you get a kicker.

SPEAKER_01

Well, maybe yeah, maybe the kicker. I don't know if I think they win more than you do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And I mean, women do uh they can uh stand the pain better.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. But like the damage I'm thinking like physical damage, or is it emotional damage?

SPEAKER_01

Um I'm thinking physical damage.

SPEAKER_07

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Because I mean uh a kick to the tentacles might, you know, ruin the tentacles.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. So does childbirth.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, it ruins the body for life.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_07

Really? I mean, my body is all messed up ever since. And also, how often do you need stitches after getting kicked?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know, but uh I'm thinking if you get kicked severe enough, you may not uh get kids.

SPEAKER_07

No, that's true, I guess. Also, if I mean uh here here's a trigger warning. Yeah. Close your ears, people. But sometimes during childbirth it tears.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

The hole isn't big enough, so it tears.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

So you need to get stitches. And sometimes those don't heal very well.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

And um you're not really uh um what is it? Like medicated enough. Okay. Or you don't get the numbing very not much of it at least. Okay. Even if they do use it, it's not usually that much. So you can kind of feel the stitches being put in. Yeah. So I mean, it's really uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

And the pain doesn't go away immediately after childbirth because you have to recover for weeks, months.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

No. Yeah, I don't know. But uh I I I'm not sure if you would like not be able to have kids after childbirth.

SPEAKER_07

Sometimes.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

I think so. Oh there's gotta be cases.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_07

Alright. Well, that was that. Uh we good?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

What Is Ruining Our Lives

SPEAKER_07

We're good. Alright. Well, as we near the end of the episode, yeah. Please tell me what is ruining your life.

SPEAKER_01

The fact that I don't know when I'm w gonna work.

SPEAKER_07

Right.

SPEAKER_01

I yeah, that and I have to wake up early in the mornings just to not be called. I don't really like that. I want the schedule.

SPEAKER_07

That would be nice.

SPEAKER_01

What's ruining your life?

SPEAKER_07

I can't see.

SPEAKER_01

Uh.

SPEAKER_07

And that bothers me the most. And it's getting increasingly more frustrating because I uh I've been I try to like look at the signs for the buses to see when they're gonna go. And I have to like get really close to the sign. Yeah otherwise I can't see anything. It's all a blur. I can't even see when the bus is coming. Because all the the lights on the bus is just like one big blur. So I have to like kind of guess what it says. And it's like, is that my bus? I'll take this one and we'll see where we end up.

SPEAKER_01

When they get closer, you can see that.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I can see it better when it's like right in front of me. Yeah. But like there's buses coming by, and it's like, is that my bus? Nope, it wasn't my bus. Is that one my bus?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Uh and I can't really see the keyboard. No. Everything's a blur.

SPEAKER_01

So how but it went well with the movies?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. I could watch the movies and the subtitles were big enough for me to see.

SPEAKER_01

Good.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. Are you all out of sips?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, almost.

SPEAKER_07

Almost. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

I'm all out of sips, and that means we're all out of episode.

Wrap-Up And Where To Follow

SPEAKER_07

Alright. Well, would you like to wrap this up?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Awesome. Thank you for listening to this episode. Hopefully you got something out of it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Maybe we learned something, and we are not going to continue fighting over the whole pain, which is worse. No. Because we get out of control. Yeah. So we're gonna end it there. That's the end of it forever.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. Um, let us know what you think. What is worse. Yeah. I want to know other people's perspectives.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Like, what do you think is worse and why? We need reasons. And we will read your comments next episode.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Uh, which comes out on Tuesday. Um, yeah. We will probably talk about something that is also really fun.

SPEAKER_02

Hopefully.

SPEAKER_07

Next episode. So uh, and we know that you are loving what you hear. You made it this far. So why haven't you started following us yet?

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SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

And then we can all be really good besties. Right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. Anyway, uh, that's all. That's all I had for today.

SPEAKER_01

All for today.

SPEAKER_07

Have a good life and see you next time. Yep. Bye.

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