[Leftovers] #181

I’m running on low sleep, my alarm is betraying me, and my watch is apparently “dying” which is a perfect setup for where this conversation goes next: straight into chaotic creativity. We start with tired, unfiltered life updates, then suddenly we’re pitching the kind of crossover movie that could only exist in a half-awake brain. Think Rocky in his 90s, a zombie Apollo Creed, and Rambo showing up like the wildest studio note of all time. It’s ridiculous, but it also gets at something real about why we love franchise crossovers in the first place.

From there, we zoom out into what makes crossovers actually work. We talk nostalgic Cartoon Network style mashups, why modern shared universes (yes, Marvel) can feel “built” instead of spontaneous, and why a left-field idea like Django Unchained meeting Zorro sounds so tempting. If you’re into movies, storytelling, sequels, and the mechanics of fan service versus surprise, there’s a lot here to chew on even when we’re joking around.

Then reality kicks in: we debate our movie watchlist order, toss around rewatch fixes, and talk logistics like traveling to the United States and possibly taking a break. We even end on an odd little science corner about yawning: why it’s contagious, why it might relate to brain state, and why some yawns feel unsatisfying or “stuck.” Subscribe for more movie talk and messy curiosity, and if you listen, share your dream crossover and leave us a review so we can find more people who love this kind of weird conversation.

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Transcript

Sleepy Small Talk And Alarms

SPEAKER_00 0:00

But I'm still drinking water.

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Yay.

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Yep. What? What? Nothing. You have nothing to say today.

SPEAKER_02 0:08

No. Do you have anything to say today?

SPEAKER_00 0:10

No.

SPEAKER_02 0:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 0:12

I have nothing. Interesting. I have I have nothing to say. I have nothing to talk about. I just I'm just existing. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 0:20

That's about m my how I am too.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

I woke up this morning.

SPEAKER_02 0:25

That's good. That's a good start.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Oh, okay. And um, well, I thought that I had turned off my alarm. Okay. But I guess I didn't. Because it still went off this morning. And I couldn't really stay asleep since like four this morning because my watch was saying, Hey, I'm dying. And so you're dying. No, my watch was dying.

SPEAKER_03 0:49

You're okay.

SPEAKER_00 0:51

And so I I didn't want to oversleep and like you show up at the door while I'm still in bed. So I kept waking up and checking the time. Oh, yeah. But I I I don't know. Oh no.

SPEAKER_03 1:06

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

Hey Doah! Hey Doha. It's about time. It's only 1256. Yeah. Now she's leaving.

SPEAKER_02 1:13

So you're kind of tired today?

SPEAKER_00 1:15

I'm a bit tired. And I'm not gonna sleep in tomorrow either. So that that sucks.

SPEAKER_02 1:21

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

And that's what's ruining my life. Yeah. Is that um I can't sleep in. And it makes me sad.

SPEAKER_02 1:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 1:30

I guess I have the same problem. But uh yeah, I I'm uh also tired, but I didn't work late or anything, but you know, tired uh Did I work last night?

SPEAKER_00 1:42

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:43

No, you didn't.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

I was still home. Oh yeah. I was home last night. I had a meeting.

SPEAKER_02 1:47

Oh yeah, that's what it was.

SPEAKER_00 1:49

Yeah. Yeah, I had teams.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

Yeah, issue.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

Okay, hold

Pitching A Rocky Rambo Sequel

SPEAKER_00 1:53

on.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

Here's my pitch. Okay. Rocky, he's in his 90s, right? And he's like, I I still have it in me. I'm gonna do it one more time. One more fight.

SPEAKER_03 2:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:04

Against Apollo Creed, the zombie.

SPEAKER_03 2:06

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 2:07

And then and then um Rocky, he's like in the match and he's all beaten up by the zombie because zombies are stronger. And um he's like he's he's dying out there.

SPEAKER_03 2:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:21

And then the door opens, you know, the entrance.

SPEAKER_03 2:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:24

And it's Rambo, and he comes in and he he's also in his 90s, he's like a hundred now, and he just shoots everyone. Okay. Rocky's dead, and so is Apollo Creed. Oh, yeah. Again. Yeah, okay. The sequel. His death, the sequel.

SPEAKER_02 2:40

Uh yeah. I I thought uh I mean lab experiments. Right.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

It's like I messed up on the first kit, I'm gonna try again. And then he dies.

SPEAKER_02 2:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

So it doesn't really go well for the second kid either.

SPEAKER_02 2:55

No. But the baby is left alone.

SPEAKER_00 2:57

Yeah, to make Rambo the second one. Yeah. Kind of like a jungle book kind of mogly. Then like Rambo.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

30 years later when uh Rambo is like 130, uh, the baby uh uh is now grown up and wants to take revenge against the kills Rambo 30 year old.

SPEAKER_00 3:20

Yeah. He's like, I am the real Rambo. Yeah. I think that's how it's gonna go.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

Yeah. Sounds possible.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

Yeah. You know, when I look at the text on the screen for the time and everything, it's just a blob.

SPEAKER_03 3:34

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

I mean, I can kinda make out what it says, but I mean if I really try, but if I'm just looking over, it's like, yeah, just lines. It's lines. Yeah. I don't know. That's all I had for today.

SPEAKER_02 3:47

Okay. Cool. We should Oh no. We should pitch more movies.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

I need I need a refill. I'm not ready. I guess I have to wake up for this.

SPEAKER_02 3:59

Yeah. Hey, that's a good idea to pitch like uh crossover

Why Crossovers Feel So Fun

SPEAKER_02 4:03

movies.

SPEAKER_00 4:05

You know, those are like my favorite things. Remember, I don't know if you ever saw these, but there was a time in the Cartoon Network world where they um intertwined different shows. And it was really cool.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

And there's other shows that have done that too. I think Nickelodeon had a group of shows that did the same thing, and I always thought it was so cool. Like, do that again.

SPEAKER_02 4:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

I want more of that.

SPEAKER_02 4:32

Yeah, I I know also it's mostly like uh TV shows that do that.

SPEAKER_00 4:38

Yeah, but now we need movies.

SPEAKER_02 4:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

Something other than like comedy movies that heavily reference things.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

Yeah, like a series.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

Yeah. It's kind of like uh Space Jam that intertwine like Michael Jordan and the Looney Tunes. That was really cool.

SPEAKER_02 4:58

I mean, if you think about it, uh the uh Marvel movies are like that, they cross over, but they kind of built like that.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Yeah, they're in the same universe. So is it really intertwining or is it just like here's this guy and here's this guy, and they're in the same world, so they're going to cross paths.

SPEAKER_02 5:17

Yeah, and uh it's it's so planned. Yeah. You should go with uh not planned, you know, uh just like characters.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

Random, hey superhero, let's, you know, join together and beat up this bad guy together.

SPEAKER_02 5:34

Well, I recently heard about um um uh Quentin Tarantino writing like a script for a crossover between Django from Django Unchained and Sorrow. And I'm like, that's kinda cool. Okay. Because I I I I like those movies. And they're not they're like separate, and I hope that it's like the same um actors as in the movies, so they can put, you know, uh Jamie Fox and uh Antonio Banderas. That that would be cool. Sorry, this might uh it's just me being nerdy, but uh I haven't seen the Django Unchained.

SPEAKER_00 6:13

I haven't really seen Zorro either, but I've I I recognize it.

SPEAKER_02 6:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

There was a TV show, right? Uh with Zoro? Or was it just the movie?

SPEAKER_02 6:23

I mean, uh I think there was like an older TV show.

SPEAKER_00 6:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:29

But uh the movies are from like 98 and uh 2005.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 6:36

And those are the ones I'm more familiar with.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

Oh.

Fixing The Movie Watch Order

SPEAKER_02 6:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:41

You have a Rambo shirt on.

SPEAKER_02 6:43

I do.

SPEAKER_00 6:44

Um, I I have to criticize the movie list a little bit. Nothing bad. I I wish it was done a little bit differently.

SPEAKER_01 6:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

But uh you probably did it the way you did for a reason. But I think that it would have been better to see the Rocky movies and then the the other guy. What's the other guy? We watched Stallone and the other guy as old guys fighting each other. I know. We should have seen his movies and then the one with the two of them together. And then I would have appreciated that last one more.

SPEAKER_02 7:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:18

That's all.

SPEAKER_02 7:19

I feel like Yeah, I know. I I've been thinking about that too, but uh just not what happened. I I had a reason to do what I did.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

Probably because it had something similar with the other movie that we were watching.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

Yeah, well I I think I wanted uh the two movies with uh Stallone and Robert De Niro next to each other. So Copland and then uh Grudge Match.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

That's and other reasons too, because uh I I mean I kind of wanted the movies further further down the list to be further further down the list. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

And also it has to do with like the videos I make and stuff like that. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

Okay. Robert De Niro. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna watch his boxing movies.

SPEAKER_02 8:13

Uh we can.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

Okay. Okay. What were those?

SPEAKER_02 8:17

Uh it's just the one, I think. Oh. Uh Raging Bull.

SPEAKER_00 8:21

Right. Okay. Okay. Cool. Alright. Anything else?

SPEAKER_02 8:26

Uh no, no. But I mean, I can uh maybe fix the uh the Grudge Match movie as a re-watch movie.

SPEAKER_00 8:37

We have to uh start everything over. Okay. From the beginning of the list, we have to go back down again.

SPEAKER_02 8:43

Yeah, and just move the that movie to have to redo it and do it better. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:49

I make sense.

SPEAKER_02 8:51

I feel like I wanted to move around more uh on the movies after we watched them. I'm like, oh, why didn't I put it like that? And you know, sometimes you just have to live with how it went. It's like the Adam Sandler movies. I now that we s uh that I've seen uh Little Nicky, I kinda wanted it to be after Happy Gilmore since Chubb's uh Call Weathers is in that one in heaven. In heaven, in heaven.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

And I'm like, oh that why why did we watch that before Happy Gilmore? I don't know. But I didn't know. That makes sense. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Yeah, I uh nope, didn't

Travel Plans And A Podcast Break

SPEAKER_00 9:33

know. Um I'm gonna change the subject.

SPEAKER_02 9:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 9:36

Uh to something uh maybe not as exciting, but I am going to the States for a few weeks. How are we gonna do that?

SPEAKER_02 9:46

I don't know. Do you do you want me to give you a stick that, you know, you can take with you and watch the movies over there, or do you wanna like watch the movie beforehand or after the fact?

SPEAKER_00 9:59

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 10:00

Because you're also very you're also very busy.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

I'm gonna be busy and I want to prioritize the things that I have over there. I mean, maybe I can take the movies on the stick and uh do my best to watch them, but I won't promise anything.

SPEAKER_03 10:19

No, okay.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

But I'm also thinking I think I want to take a break from the podcast.

SPEAKER_03 10:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

Because I mean it's just it's a lot. And I'm already gonna be doing a lot. And yeah. Would that be okay? Yeah, I guess so. Okay. I mean we'll see what actually ends up happening. We've got another month left.

SPEAKER_02 10:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

So how mad are you?

SPEAKER_02 10:42

I'm not mad.

SPEAKER_00 10:43

You're really mad? Yeah. Not right now, but later when you start thinking about it, it's like, why does she have to ruin everything all the time? Am I gonna be the one who's ruining your life now?

SPEAKER_02 10:53

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 10:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 10:54

No, I'm thinking uh um I think I ruined my life uh Enough. Enough. I'm good at that myself. Yeah, okay. So it's okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

Okay. Yeah, we'll see what happens. But that's what I'm thinking right now.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

They didn't have No Coca-Cola.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

That's mean. You're back.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

That was uh That was the day with that.

SPEAKER_00 11:18

Yep. That's typical. Last like 40 minutes and then that's it.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

What? What do you want? Ain't a one. Ain't a while.

SPEAKER_02 11:30

Well, I helped uh you know my parents last weekend.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

Oh, are we going to the gym after this?

SPEAKER_02 11:37

If you want to.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

That's the the same reaction I had like every day this week.

SPEAKER_00 11:45

Again, okay.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

Yeah, but then I'm like, no, I can't stay home because then I'm gonna get used to that and uh it's not okay. No. Uh for their wedding, I think. Or something. No? I don't know. They they went to a place and uh then um They went to Okay. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

I I thought it was her because I believe she put on a little weight, right? Yeah. And so the woman kinda looked like her. So I'm wondering if it's her, but she's uncredited. I couldn't find her in the cast. No. We'll see. Yep. Okay.

Pokemon Movies And Too Many Generations

SPEAKER_02 12:30

It appears in human. We're gonna watch so uh uh a few. We're gonna watch Pokemon movies.

SPEAKER_00 12:37

You'll probably see sleeping Pokemon in the movies.

SPEAKER_02 12:40

Yeah, and I mean I mean, I I was like looking through if how many movies there were. There are like 20 movies.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

Yeah, well now it's just getting ridiculous because there's like at least a million different uh what do you even call them now? Uh um yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

Yeah, uh I think um I think I know what I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 13:08

Hold on. We need to pause because I need to talk about Pokemon for a minute.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

Um Pokemon.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Pokey Yon. Pokemon You don't wanna meet a Pokey Yon.

SPEAKER_00 13:23

No. Uh Pokedex. I'll just go for that. And it will probably tell me my what I'm looking for. That didn't tell me. I know they call it something. Um this is important right now. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

I'm also thinking. I I think I know the word, but I just don't remember it.

SPEAKER_00 13:48

Generation. Oh my god. There's at the moment, there's nine different generations of Pokemon.

SPEAKER_03 13:57

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

At least 20,000 video games. And that's not real. I just came up with it. Okay. Don't look at me like, okay. Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

I I believe you.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

I believe you.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

And um, so the movies are a little uh out of control, and every single one of them nowadays are very cringy.

SPEAKER_03 14:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

I love them as a kid. As an adult, it's like, mm, okay. Yeah. Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_02 14:28

So when I was looking through the uh like the list of all uh the sequels, I'm like, no, we're good with the ones you Yeah, I only put down the ones that I thought were worth watching.

SPEAKER_03 14:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

Um I believe I've seen most of them. I think the ones further down the list I probably have not seen.

SPEAKER_03 14:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

At least the last one. Depending on how many movies we have on there. Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

Yeah.

Door Interruptions And Dog Chaos

SPEAKER_02 15:00

Intentional Oh no, there's someone at the door.

SPEAKER_00 15:03

Hello. Please no. I don't want to stand here talking forever about nothing. Yes, but you like something? Uh he's doing the ding-dong ditch. I guess. Or doing ding-dong ditch, but not ditching, just hanging on the handle. Hey, do you want something? Buddy, please. What what would you like? I love you. Is Papa making food? It smells like food. What's Papa doing? Bye bye. Woof woof. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

Okay. What was that? Why do we yawn?

SPEAKER_00 15:36

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 15:38

No. Brain temperature uh regulation.

SPEAKER_00 15:41

Why do we yawn? My jaw cracks.

SPEAKER_02 15:43

The draw jaw.

Yawning Science And Stuck Yawns

SPEAKER_02 15:46

I'm a good jerk. Kr crack. What are you writing? Kr crack. When Lauren.

SPEAKER_00 15:57

Me specifically. You do the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

Yeah. Okay. When we. Um yawn. Okay. Now I need to find where was uh What was that?

SPEAKER_00 16:11

I'm sorry. Uh yeah, this doesn't help. I can't read. Just where are you? There. Right. Oh, it activates that. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Wait. I'm sorry. I have to pause. Okay. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

Why is it contagious? Self-other reprints representation. Representation. Repres uh yeah. Self-other. What self-other representation?

SPEAKER_00 16:40

I can't see. I don't know. Whatever. Skip over that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

That wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

I'll just cut that one out.

SPEAKER_02 16:48

Yeah, that wasn't interesting anyways. Nucleus. Nuclear nucleus.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

Nucleus.

SPEAKER_02 16:56

Nucle nucleus. Nucleus. This creates a noticeable reset.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

I know that. I already know that. Old news. Sounds good.

SPEAKER_02 17:08

Did you want me to ask you why why it's not?

SPEAKER_00 17:11

Oh why does it sometimes not feel satisfactory after a yawn?

SPEAKER_02 17:18

Why does uh or doesn't?

SPEAKER_00 17:22

Why does it sometimes not?

SPEAKER_02 17:25

Sometimes not feel satisfactory.

SPEAKER_00 17:32

Or satisfying. Satisfying after a yawn.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

Satisfying after uh e no yawn.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

Yeah, I've why do I sometimes not like yawn?

SPEAKER_02 17:46

Yeah. Why why doesn't yawn always satisfy me?

unknown 17:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

Uh okay, here we go I'll take that later.

unknown 17:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:00

This old theory is largely un unsupported.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

D what?

SPEAKER_02 18:05

Vasovag vagal. Vasil vag Vaginal? No. Vasovagal. V vagal. Vasovag vagal. I don't really want to help you.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

I just want to hear you keep trying.

SPEAKER_02 18:18

Vasovagal. That's what reactions. Vasov vaginal reactions. Neurological disorders.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

That has they're not even connected. Okay. What is this? Yeah, no. No.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

I I cut that out.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

Alright. Vaso vaginal.

SPEAKER_02 18:43

Yeah. Significantly. And that was the first time.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

Disgusting.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

Okay, we already already know this one. Okay. Old news. Olympic athletes sometimes yawn before a competition.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 19:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

I said that before.

SPEAKER_00 19:03

And then what?

SPEAKER_02 19:04

Reading about uh yawning triggers real yawns in many people. I why is it repeating?

SPEAKER_00 19:10

I can jump over that part.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

Researchers still debate the primary evolutionary purpose. Okay. Whether contagious yawning cruelly reflects empathy, why some people are highly susceptible and others almost immune. How exactly yawning alters brain state? Why yawning is so conserved across species species.

SPEAKER_00 19:35

I have a question.

SPEAKER_02 19:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

Is there a lot left? This is We're reaching two hours.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

Yeah, this is the end of this. Then we have the question.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

Let's skip to the questions. I'm sorry. Is that okay? Yeah. Alright.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

Maybe I don't have to read all of the answers for the question.

SPEAKER_00 19:53

You can give me like the important parts, and then when it starts com repeating itself, then you can go to the next one.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

Sounding boring.

SPEAKER_02 20:02

Here's the actual picture. Some studies found that Hey.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Oh tip shot. Fast fit. Fist shot. Okay. Hey though.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

That unsatisfying yawn feeling is surprisingly common. People often describe it as a yawn that gets stuck.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

Okay, but why?

SPEAKER_02 20:30

Not reaching the peak. Um what? Not reaching the peak. Oh. It's like when you doesn't fulfill one. I don't know. Um number one. The the yawn sequence didn't fully complete. Uh a satisfying uh a satisfying yawn is coordinated chain involving yeah, okay. I don't we know that. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

But there's no reason. It's just because you didn't finish the yawn.

SPEAKER_02 20:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

Is it like homework? Can you make up for it later?

SPEAKER_02 21:01

So if something interrupts that sequence, uh uh

Short Answers And Wrap Up

SPEAKER_02 21:06

consciously or unconsciously, the brain still feels the need for completion. Um why?

SPEAKER_00 21:14

Okay. Go to the bottom and ask it to give you a shorter answer. A short and direct answer.

SPEAKER_03 21:26

Okay.